On False Prophets and Supposed Seers
repost from March 20, 2012
I must again repeat another theme while I am here in France and have a little time to post. It has been brought
to my attention by friends in Ireland and Great Britain that many ladies and some gentlemen have been reading prophecies online on the last days and the Second Coming. Now, most of these so-called seers are harmless, but some are heretics. I have found many doctrinal errors looking briefly at some of the sites to indicate to me that
most should be avoided. If those people I know would spend their time reading the encyclicals and the CCC, they would be much better off than following false prophets. I wrote about this earlier, in January and I use the same facepalm photo to get my point across. Part of the problem is in this post, on the dumbing down of lay expectations....
http://supertradmum-etheldredasplace.blogspot.fr/2012/01/apostolicam-actuositatem-and-dumbing.html
For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. Matthew 24:7
We are warned by Christ not to follow false prophets, and the existence of the Internet makes these people have a much larger audience than one would suspect. While I was in Ireland, I was told of three people who are now supposedly seeing the Blessed Virgin Mary regularly, and these false visions are not even on the Net, which has enough nonsense floating into people's unsuspecting souls. Most of these false prophets are anti-intellectuals,
For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. Matthew 24:7
We are warned by Christ not to follow false prophets, and the existence of the Internet makes these people have a much larger audience than one would suspect. While I was in Ireland, I was told of three people who are now supposedly seeing the Blessed Virgin Mary regularly, and these false visions are not even on the Net, which has enough nonsense floating into people's unsuspecting souls. Most of these false prophets are anti-intellectuals,
who do not have a solid grasp of the Teaching of the Catholic Church. I have already mentioned the causes at this post,http://supertradmum-etheldredasplace.blogspot.fr/2012/01/sometimes-i-prefer-secular-humanism.html
One of the most popular in the British Isles and in Ireland is this website, http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/ where just on the section on the Second Coming, I found
One of the most popular in the British Isles and in Ireland is this website, http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/ where just on the section on the Second Coming, I found
twelve errors, including four doctrinal errors. When I have pointed these out to people, I am told that priests are supporting these statements. I hope not.
Some of the errors fall into these categories: one, that Revelation is still being given by Christ. NO, in the answer,
Some of the errors fall into these categories: one, that Revelation is still being given by Christ. NO, in the answer,
as all Revelation ended with the death of the last Apostle, St. John. Anything else is blatantly false and should be suspect. Here is the pertinent section from the CCC on this one point.
Here is part of that section:
66 "The Christian economy, therefore, since it is the new and definitive Covenant, will never pass away; and no new public revelation is to be expected before the glorious manifestation of our Lord Jesus Christ."28 Yet even if
Here is part of that section:
66 "The Christian economy, therefore, since it is the new and definitive Covenant, will never pass away; and no new public revelation is to be expected before the glorious manifestation of our Lord Jesus Christ."28 Yet even if
Revelation is already complete, it has not been made completely explicit; it remains for Christian faith gradually to grasp its full significance over the course of the centuries.
67 Throughout the ages, there have been so-called "private" revelations, some of which have been recognized by
67 Throughout the ages, there have been so-called "private" revelations, some of which have been recognized by
the authority of the Church. They do not belong, however, to the deposit of faith. It is not their role to improve or complete Christ's definitive Revelation, but to help live more fully by it in a certain period of history. Guided by the Magisterium of the Church, the sensus fidelium knows how to discern and welcome in these revelations whatever constitutes an authentic call of Christ or his saints to the Church.
Christian faith cannot accept "revelations" that claim to surpass or correct the Revelation of which Christ is the fulfillment, as is the case in certain non-Christian religions and also in certain recent sects which base themselves
Christian faith cannot accept "revelations" that claim to surpass or correct the Revelation of which Christ is the fulfillment, as is the case in certain non-Christian religions and also in certain recent sects which base themselves
on such "revelations".
68 By love, God has revealed himself and given himself to man. He has thus provided the definitive, superabundant answer to the questions that man asks himself about the meaning and purpose of his life.
69 God has revealed himself to man by gradually communicating his own mystery in deeds and in words.
70 Beyond the witness to himself that God gives in created things, he manifested himself to our first parents,
68 By love, God has revealed himself and given himself to man. He has thus provided the definitive, superabundant answer to the questions that man asks himself about the meaning and purpose of his life.
69 God has revealed himself to man by gradually communicating his own mystery in deeds and in words.
70 Beyond the witness to himself that God gives in created things, he manifested himself to our first parents,
spoke to them and, after the fall, promised them salvation (cf. Gen 3:15) and offered them his covenant.
71 God made an everlasting covenant with Noah and with all living beings (cf. Gen 9:16). It will remain in force as
71 God made an everlasting covenant with Noah and with all living beings (cf. Gen 9:16). It will remain in force as
long as the world lasts.
72 God chose Abraham and made a covenant with him and his descendants. By the covenant God formed his
72 God chose Abraham and made a covenant with him and his descendants. By the covenant God formed his
people and revealed his law to them through Moses. Through the prophets, he prepared them to accept the
salvation destined for all humanity.
73 God has revealed himself fully by sending his own Son, in whom he has established his covenant for ever.
73 God has revealed himself fully by sending his own Son, in whom he has established his covenant for ever.
The Son is his Father's definitive Word; so there will be no further Revelation after him.
The seer on the website claims the opposite.
Secondly, the false prophet states that there is a thousand years of peace after the Second Coming. NO, the
The seer on the website claims the opposite.
Secondly, the false prophet states that there is a thousand years of peace after the Second Coming. NO, the
Second Coming is the end of time and the judgement of all. Again, one only has to look at the CCC, here linked
for this information. A few lines from this section are sufficient: 680 Christ the Lord already reigns through the
Church, but all the things of this world are not yet subjected to him. The triumph of Christ's kingdom will not come about without one last assault by the powers of evil.
681 On Judgment Day at the end of the world, Christ will come in glory to achieve the definitive triumph of good
over evil which, like the wheat and the tares, have grown up together in the course of history.
682 When he comes at the end of time to judge the living and the dead, the glorious Christ will reveal the secret disposition of hearts and will render to each man according to his works, and according to his acceptance or
refusal of grace.
Another glaring error is the indication that one can pray for a Seal of some sort, to mark that person as saved.
NO, we receive seals in Confirmation, completely our Baptism, and some men, who are priests, get an mark of the priesthood. All these are given within the context of the Sacraments. The seer is a Protestant. Again, the CCC can
be used for enlightenment Again, I share a small segment:
- 1304 Like Baptism which it completes, Confirmation is given only once, for it too imprints on the soul an indelible spiritual mark, the "character," which is the sign that Jesus Christ has marked a Christian with
- the seal of his Spirit by clothing him with power from on high so that he may be his witness.121
person receives
the power to profess faith in Christ publicly and as it were
officially (quasi Ex officio)."122
There are more errors, which I elucidate later if people are
There are more errors, which I elucidate later if people are
interested. Another false and dangerous site is http://www.courlisius.org/ which includes many people condemned
by their local bishops. I would steer clear of all those listed on this site. The lack of Catholic Teaching and Catholic discernment means not only that many of those who read these sites are wasting their time, but that they are led astray into theories of the end times which have nothing to do with reality.
We are warned and we need to keep close to the Church in order to decide what is true and what is false. A person can lose one's immortal soul by following these deceived seers. All these prove that the prideful desire for inside knowledge, instead of the pursuit of the True Faith, leads many people into serious error. I ask priests to clarify such things for those who come to them and even from the pulpit.
And, I am simply tired of hearing the argument, such as those from some of my friends involved in Bayside,
We are warned and we need to keep close to the Church in order to decide what is true and what is false. A person can lose one's immortal soul by following these deceived seers. All these prove that the prideful desire for inside knowledge, instead of the pursuit of the True Faith, leads many people into serious error. I ask priests to clarify such things for those who come to them and even from the pulpit.
And, I am simply tired of hearing the argument, such as those from some of my friends involved in Bayside,
which has been condemned, that one does not have to obey a liberal bishop on matters of private revelation. Since when?