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Tuesday, 15 January 2013

On the Dialogue Mass

By the way, while here, I discovered a blog from a Tridentine Mass group. Here is a really interesting article for you all. Here is the on line address:

I do not know anything personal about those who write this blog, but check it out.

Dialogue Mass

Tridentine Mass held in St. Paul's Bay, Malta
A Dialogue Mass (Missa dialogata orMissa recitata) is a Tridentine Mass in which the people recite some parts of the Latin text.

The Dialogue Mass was introduced by Pope Saint Pius X. He made a strong plea for active lay participation in the liturgy decades before the Second Vatican Council.

In November 1922, the Holy See's Sacred Congregation of the Council gave approval to the practice whereby "at least in religious houses and institutions for youth, all people assisting at the Mass make the responses at the same time with the acolytes", a practice that it declared praiseworthy in view of the evident desire expressed in papal documents "to instil into the souls of the faithful a truly Christian and collective spirit, and prepare them for active participation." Further approval was granted by the Sacred Congregation of Rites on 30 November 1935, and on 3 September 1958.

The Dialogue Mass never became popular in English-speaking countries, and current celebrations of Tridentine Mass in these countries are rarely structured as a Dialogue Mass. In other countries, especially in continental Europe, the Dialogue Mass met with a greater acceptance and, at times, is the almost exclusive version of the Low Mass.

Since the promulgation of Summorum Pontificum, most of the Tridentine Masses in Malta were Dialogue Masses. This means therefore that people join with the altar servers in reciting the responses. In addition, the people are allowed to recite those parts of the Ordinary of the Mass that are sung by all at a Missa Cantatanamely the Gloria, Credo, Sanctus, and Agnus Dei. They also are allowed to recite with the priest the tripleDomine non sum dignus that he said as part of the rite of Communion of the faithful.
Therefore when people attend Tridentine Mass in Malta or abroad, it is useful to know beforehand whether the Mass will be a Dialogue one or not to avoid misunderstandings.


Matthew Roth said...

I prefer the Mass when it is a Dialogue Mass. It's still very different from the Novus Ordo, because of the structure.
Oh, I sat in choir at the TLM on Sunday, and will go to formal training Wednesday night so I can serve the Sunday Missa cantata regularly!!

Lynda said...

You are still in Malta?! I hope you will be back in Dublin for the crucial ProLife Rally in Merrion Square, on 19th, 4.30 p.m. I think there is an hour of prayer beforehand. Most of the churches have been leafleted over past two weekends, and many priests announced it at Masses.

Supertradmum said...

Lynda, sorry I shall not be in Ireland for a long time. Prayers.

Lynda said...

Sorry to hear that. Could you please put up a notice about this most crucial rally for Ireland on your blog? You can get the text of the notice on several sites such as that of PLC, Youth Defence, Fr Gabriel Burke, St Genesius Fraternity. Officials of Fine Gael, the majority Government party said 9 days ago in a meeting with prolife reps that no attention would be paid to people opposing the proposed legalisation of abortion unless there were at least 50,000 at this rally. Blessed Michael, the Archangel, protect Ireland!

Supertradmum said...

Lynda, will do.

Lynda said...

Could you put up that post as soon as possible, please? Thank you!

Supertradmum said...

Lynda, still on retreat. Will do after

Maltese TradCath said...

Maltese Catholicism has suffered mostly because parishes in the central / northern part of the island, and in Gozo, have retained several aspects from the Tridentine Liturgy. Therefore people were duped so to speak in accepting the changes.

Sadly the church here promotes the new movements, based mostly on personality cults (read Anġelik and his alleged visions, Edward Spiteri and his Catholic Revival Movement) and others.

The group you mentioned here is a small one and has been obstructed by the Church hierarchy. The Archbishop himself on TV said that he is reluctant to free the TLM. So much for obedience to the Holy See.