Reminder on the CDF an USCCB on Medjugorje

Vatican Insider reports the Holy Father’s homily during Mass at St Martha’s on November 14, which also has relevance to this subject: discussing the reading about the Spirit of Wisdom, Pope Francis commented, “Curiosity …leads us to say “But I know a visionary who receives letters from Our Lady, messages from Our Lady.” He added in the homely imagery for which he is noted, “But look, Our Lady… is not a postmistress, sending messages every day.” He warned the faithful not to seek “strange things” or “novelties with worldly curiosity.”

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2013/11/15/the-cdf-has-done-something-about-medjugorje-finally/

and

from here http://communio.stblogs.org/index.php/2013/11/medjugorje-visionaries-not-permitted-to-speak-church-advocates/

“Oh! How sweet and glorious is this virtue of obedience, which contains all the other virtues! Because it is born of charity, and on it the rock of the holy Faith is founded; it is a queen, and he who espouses it knows no evil, but only peace and rest.” St. Catherine of Siena.

The legitimate investigation of the Holy See continues as you can see from this letter of October 21, 2013 of the US Apostolic Nuncio, Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò to the General Secretary of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, Monsignor Ronny Jenkins. Archbishop Viganò writes on behalf of Archbishop Gerhard Ludwig Müller, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. The letter reiterates an April 10, 1991, directive not to adhere to unverified proposals.

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is clear: “clerics and the faithful are not permitted to participate in meetings, conferences or public celebrations during which the credibility of such ‘apparitions’ would be taken for granted.”

We owe the bishops practical obedience, which means not contradicting the local ordinaries decisions on visionaries. We owe the CDF real obedience, as that body is part of one of the levels of the Teaching Magisterium of the Church.

Some people I know are having difficulties in their families, while the mother and father insist on following false seers. A direct consequence of disobedience, a sin, could be loss of faith in the children. Deception in spiritual matters can afflict entire families and lead individuals away from the Church.

I know followers of Medjugorje would believe in women priests and ssm. And, they have been to the shrine many times.

Think. Only obedience can lead to holiness, not the chasing after apparitions. Christ said this to St. Margaret Mary Alocoque: "…not only do I desire that you should do what your Superior commands, but also that you should do nothing of all that I request of you without their consent. I love obedience, and without it no one can please Me" 

quotations of the saints found here...

Heresy from The Pulpit Three

Another quotation from the Decree on Ecumenism helps all understand the real problem of "imprudent zeal.

I have written on this blog before what an old priest told me of his confreres and himself in the seminary in the 1950s. He admitted, and this is a quotation, "We wanted to protestantize the Church."

They went into the seminary wanting to make the Catholic Church look, act and believe in a more protestant fashion, as they honestly saw the waning of Christianity as only stopped by a pan-Christianity. Some of the German bishops still hold this idea, based on the destruction of the Catholic Church in many areas under Communism and Nazism. This is part of the problem with the Synod.

This false ideal of pan-Christianity is the false message of Vassula Ryden, also referred to here on this blog. Pan-Christianity denies the real differences of belief and worship. And, only the Holy Spirit, through the action and decrees of the Church, can bring about unity of any separated brethren, including the SSPX, the Old Catholics and the Orthodox, as well as the eccelsial communities of Protestants.

Again from the Decree:

This Sacred Council exhorts the faithful to refrain from superficiality and imprudent zeal, which can hinder real progress toward unity. Their ecumenical action must be fully and sincerely Catholic, that is to say, faithful to the truth which we have received from the apostles and Fathers of the Church, in harmony with the faith which the Catholic Church has always professed, and at the same time directed toward that fullness to which Our Lord wills His Body to grow in the course of time. It is the urgent wish of this Holy Council that the measures undertaken by the sons of the Catholic Church should develop in conjunction with those of our separated brethren so that no obstacle be put in the ways of divine Providence and no preconceived judgments impair the future inspirations of the Holy Spirit. The Council moreover professes its awareness that human powers and capacities cannot achieve this holy objective - the reconciling of all Christians in the unity of the one and only Church of Christ. It is because of this that the Council rests all its hope on the prayer of Christ for the Church, on our Father's love for us, and on the power of the Holy Spirit." And hope does not disappoint, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us".(42)

Heresy from The Pulpit Two

On top of the misuse of the word "church, is the misuse of the word "traditions". Too many priests are stating that the Catholic Church is merely one of many "traditions" of worship and belief.

Not so, as the only one tradition back to Christ is the Catholic Church.  The Othodox Church derives "efficacy" "from the very fullness and grace entrusted to the Catholic Church."  There is a mistaken view that the word "traditions" can be applied to the Protestants, while is only applies to the Orthodox. See the last paragraph from the Decree on Ecumenism below. The Protestant communities are not different traditions, but dissenting groups. Only the Orthodox may be called one of the "traditions". The Protestants are called a strange title, "ecclesial Communities", but not Church or church. They are "sort-of" church communities, but not quite and absolutely not a "tradition".


Here is a key section from Dominus Iesus:

The Catholic faithful are required to profess that there is an historical continuity — rooted in the apostolic succession53 — between the Church founded by Christ and the Catholic Church: “This is the single Church of Christ... which our Saviour, after his resurrection, entrusted to Peter's pastoral care (cf. Jn 21:17), commissioning him and the other Apostles to extend and rule her (cf. Mt 28:18ff.), erected for all ages as ‘the pillar and mainstay of the truth' (1 Tim3:15). This Church, constituted and organized as a society in the present world, subsists in [subsistit in] the Catholic Church, governed by the Successor of Peter and by the Bishops in communion with him”.54  With the expression subsistit in, the Second Vatican Council sought to harmonize two doctrinal statements: on the one hand, that the Church of Christ, despite the divisions which exist among Christians, continues to exist fully only in the Catholic Church, and on the other hand, that “outside of her structure, many elements can be found of sanctification and truth”,55 that is, in those Churches and ecclesial communities which are not yet in full communion with the Catholic Church.56 But with respect to these, it needs to be stated that “they derive their efficacy from the very fullness of grace and truth entrusted to the Catholic Church”.57 17.  Therefore, there exists a single Church of Christ, which subsists in the Catholic Church, governed by the Successor of Peter and by the Bishops in communion with him.58 The Churches which, while not existing in perfect communion with the Catholic Church, remain united to her by means of the closest bonds, that is, by apostolic succession and a valid Eucharist, are true particular Churches.59 Therefore, the Church of Christ is present and operative also in these Churches, even though they lack full communion with the Catholic Church, since they do not accept the Catholic doctrine of the Primacy, which, according to the will of God, the Bishop of Rome objectively has and exercises over the entire Church.60  On the other hand, the ecclesial communities which have not preserved the valid Episcopate and the genuine and integral substance of the Eucharistic mystery,61 are not Churches in the proper sense; however, those who are baptized in these communities are, by Baptism, incorporated in Christ and thus are in a certain communion, albeit imperfect, with the Church.62 Baptism in fact tends per se toward the full development of life in Christ, through the integral profession of faith, the Eucharist, and full communion in the Church.63 “The Christian faithful are therefore not permitted to imagine that the Church of Christ is nothing more than a collection — divided, yet in some way one — of Churches and ecclesial communities; nor are they free to hold that today the Church of Christ nowhere really exists, and must be considered only as a goal which all Churches and ecclesial communities must strive to reach”.64 In fact, “the elements of this already-given Church exist, joined together in their fullness in the Catholic Church and, without this fullness, in the other communities”.65“Therefore, these separated Churches and communities as such, though we believe they suffer from defects, have by no means been deprived of significance and importance in the mystery of salvation. For the spirit of Christ has not refrained from using them as means of salvation which derive their efficacy from the very fullness of grace and truth entrusted to the Catholic Church”.66 And from Unitatis-Redintegratio: The Special Consideration of the Eastern Churches 14. For many centuries the Church of the East and that of the West each followed their separate ways though linked in a brotherly union of faith and sacramental life; the Roman See by common consent acted as guide when disagreements arose between them over matters of faith or discipline. Among other matters of great importance, it is a pleasure for this Council to remind everyone that there flourish in the East many particular or local Churches, among which the Patriarchal Churches hold first place, and of these not a few pride themselves in tracing their origins back to the apostles themselves. Hence a matter of primary concern and care among the Easterns, in their local churches, has been, and still is, to preserve the family ties of common faith and charity which ought to exist between sister Churches. Similarly it must not be forgotten that from the beginning the Churches of the East have had a treasury from which the Western Church has drawn extensively - in liturgical practice, spiritual tradition, and law. Nor must we undervalue the fact that it was the ecumenical councils held in the East that defined the basic dogmas of the Christian faith, on the Trinity, on the Word of God Who took flesh of the Virgin Mary. To preserve this faith these Churches have suffered and still suffer much. However, the heritage handed down by the apostles was received with differences of form and manner, so that from the earliest times of the Church it was explained variously in different places, owing to diversities of genius and conditions of life. All this, quite apart from external causes, prepared the way for decisions arising also from a lack of charity and mutual understanding. For this reason the Holy Council urges all, but especially those who intend to devote themselves to the restoration of full communion hoped for between the Churches of the East and the Catholic Church, to give due consideration to this special feature of the origin and growth of the Eastern Churches, and to the character of the relations which obtained between them and the Roman See before separation. They must take full account of all these factors and, where this is done, it will greatly contribute to the dialogue that is looked for. And, All this heritage of spirituality and liturgy, of discipline and theology, in its various traditions, this holy synod declares to belong to the full Catholic and apostolic character of the Church. We thank God that many Eastern children of the Catholic Church, who preserve this heritage, and wish to express it more faithfully and completely in their lives, are already living in full communion with their brethren who follow the tradition of the West. Now, the problem in the United States is that some Orthodox communities have become protestantized, no longer believing in the True Presence, for example, or the Immaculate Conception. Some of these problems are the result of heretical Orthodox priests, who like some Catholic priests, bring their own brand of theology into the pulpit. Sadly, the term Orthodox in some parts of the world covers truly protestant communities.  to be continued...

Heresy from The Pulpit

Most Catholics would not catch the "new" and dangerous misuse of the word "Church" among some Catholic priests.

The term "church" or ekklesia, specifically refers to the Catholic Church, and, as the Pope Emeritus pointed out, the Orthodox Church. The term "church" does not apply to Protestant denominations, nor does the term "Christian Church". This latter term applies to the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church only. One can read Dominus Iesus on this blog and on the Vatican site found here.

To refer to other denominations, of which there are at least 43,000, all split-offs from the Catholic Church and from each other, as "church" is not only an incorrect use of the term, but heretical.

To use the term "church" to mean only the local church, such as a parish or diocese, is also incorrect, as the Catholic Church is universal. This usage has been heard many times, incorrectly, by priests and lay people in authority. To keep saying, "We are church" implies that "we" are not connected to Rome, and the intent may be creeping Americanist ideas.

But, to actually say that the Christian Church includes Protestants is incorrect. Church indicates the liturgical assembly, the local Church, and the universal Church, but not the separated brethren.

To state further, like some Protestants do, that there is an "invisible" church denies the establishment of the one, holy, Catholic and apostolic Church by Christ through the apostles. There is no invisible church denying an institution.

When Catholics refer to the invisible Church we mean the Church Suffering in purgatory and the Church Triumphant in heaven, not some sort of vague unseen union.

The Bride of Christ is real and visible. The Church is an institution. The Church in the Catholic Church hoping for complete union of separated Christians, which does not mean some "pan-Christian church", but the conversion of our brothers and sisters in the Protestant denomnations to Catholicism, the only one, true way to God.

817 In fact, "in this one and only Church of God from its very beginnings there arose certain rifts, which the Apostle strongly censures as damnable. But in subsequent centuries much more serious dissensions appeared and large communities became separated from full communion with the Catholic Church - for which, often enough, men of both sides were to blame."²⁶⁹ The ruptures that wound the unity of Christ's Body - here we must distinguish heresy, apostasy, and schism²⁷⁰ - do not occur without human sin:

Where there are sins, there are also divisions, schisms, heresies, and disputes. Where there is virtue, however, there also are harmony and unity, from which arise the one heart and one soul of all believers.²⁷¹

Connecting Dots and The To Be Continued...

Remember this posts I wrote just a while ago? This is the continuation I promised.

Many ideologies grow up around these false seers. Grace is set aside for the words of the visionaries.

As reality attacks the false visions, grace fails as the people involved ignore Church teaching on these matters. And, as grace and ideologies crumble, people fall into either atheism or gross dualism.

Well, guess what is one of the demons worshiped by the Masons? The pythonic demon. I learned this somewhat recently.

See also my post on "Diabolical Influence" from December 17th, 2014 and January 15th, 2014, on "The Snakes Return".

Wednesday, 21 January 2015

On A Demon of The False Seer

Posted by Supertradmum

The Serpent Column from Delphi-Wiki

Myths and truth overlap. I was re-reading the passage in Acts 16:16 when St. Paul gets fed-up with the false seer and exorcises the girl from what is called in the Douay-Rheims, the Pythonic spirit.

16 And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain girl, having a pythonical spirit, met us, who brought to her masters much gain by divining.

17 This same following Paul and us, cried out, saying: These men are the servants of the most high God, who preach unto you the way of salvation.

18 And this she did many days. But Paul being grieved, turned, and said to the spirit: I command thee, in the name of Jesus Christ, to go out from her. And he went out the same hour.

It never dawned on me until today that the demon was called "Python" in the Vulgate. An old article reminded me of this when I began a study of a false healer who was connected to a python. 

Now, one can draw a line to Genesis and the snake in the garden, and also to Delphi, which I have written about on this blog before, as a place of demonic seances, relating to the pythonic demon which in myth, was overcome by Apollo.

In some myths, the priestess seer is called Pythia, and she could be seen as having a pythonic demon. Her name became the name of the main seer, the Pythia. Also, there is a sculpture of the python at Delos.

Therefore, St. Paul is making the connection concerning demonic seers.

Someone indicated that in the Latin Vulgate, in the passage about King Saul seeking out the Witch of Endor, that the "divining spirit" is also referred to as "pythonic". They were correct.

Note--- 1 Samuel 28

7 dixitque Saul servis suis quaerite mihi mulierem habentem pythonem et vadam ad eam et sciscitabor per illam et dixerunt servi eius ad eum est mulier habens pythonem in Aendor

8 mutavit ergo habitum suum vestitusque est aliis vestimentis abiit ipse et duo viri cum eo veneruntque ad mulierem nocte et ait divina mihi in pythone et suscita mihi quem dixero tibi

The evidence is growing for a real identification with false seers and a demon called "Python".

For years, I have been studying the characteristics and importance of the demon mentioned in Revelation. 

For many reasons, this demon is one worshiped today by a certain group of people. And, as it is the same demon or types of demons, this makes the connections more interesting. I wrote an entire post on this in the autumn, about theDestroyer, Abaddon, or Apollyon. 

http://supertradmum-etheldredasplace.blogspot.ie/2014/10/for-synod-members.html

So the demon is worshiped today by a certain group and is the same demon of false prophecy, false visions.

Revelation 9:11 Douay-Rheims 

11 A king, the angel of the bottomless pit; whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek Apollyon; in Latin Exterminans,

This demon is attacking the Church now in many areas. 

One, I cannot list them all-but false seers are only one column of warriors against Christ and the truth. I have listed many false seers on this blog. The Pythonic demon....

Two, Coatlicue and Qpetzalcoatl, Aztec serpent gods demanded human sacrifice, especially the first demon. I think abortion is connected to these evil spirits--the Pythonic demon again.

Three, Apollyon is worshiped by a secret society. Yes, yet again...

This powerful demon and cohorts have not left us alone...and are mentioned in all the above references dating back to Genesis. 

To be continued....for a reason

The Snakes Have Returned

The story of Patrick is not about real snakes, but about the Pythonic demons, in my opinion. He exorcised this pagan isle.

Long ago, this powerful, holy man conquered the pagan religion of the Druids.A man of extraordinary gifts, Patrick must have overcome the demons of false seers, pagan rituals which may have included killing people, and secret worship of nature. Natural religion also claims that a person can save themselves. There is a secret society here which believes that and which has much influence.

I cannot help but believe that the snakes have returned to Ireland.

Abortion is now legal, and the island abounds with witches, false visionaries and members of a certain secret society.

That ssm will be passed soon is another indication that evil has climbed back into the Holy Isle.

The rise of the occult here is staggering. November 18th was official "Occult Day" here, as it was in America.

I found Ireland under a black cloud in 2011, and the darkness has thickened. If Ireland ever needed St. Patrick, it is now.

I would be so happy if all those Michaels would sincerely pray to their patron for this beautiful place.

In one Medieval book, St. Patrick is standing on a snake supposedly in Purgatory, the door of which is supposed to be on Station Island in Lough Derg. Too bad the belief in Purgatory has passed out of Ireland.

The most pious people I have met here, who are under the age of 45 are not Irish, but Polish, Scottish, and other-ish.

If ever this Island of Saints needed saints, it is today.

http://britishlibrary.typepad.co.uk/digitisedmanuscripts/2014/03/the-legacy-of-st-patrick.html

While I am writing this, I can hear the strong wind blowing over Dublin. My heart aches for this city.

The snakes have returned.

On A Demon of The False Seer

The Serpent Column from Delphi-Wiki

Myths and truth overlap. I was re-reading the passage in Acts 16:16 when St. Paul gets fed-up with the false seer and exorcises the girl from what is called in the Douay-Rheims, the Pythonic spirit.

16 And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain girl, having a pythonical spirit, met us, who brought to her masters much gain by divining.

17 This same following Paul and us, cried out, saying: These men are the servants of the most high God, who preach unto you the way of salvation.

18 And this she did many days. But Paul being grieved, turned, and said to the spirit: I command thee, in the name of Jesus Christ, to go out from her. And he went out the same hour.

It never dawned on me until today that the demon was called "Python" in the Vulgate. An old article reminded me of this when I began a study of a false healer who was connected to a python. 

Now, one can draw a line to Genesis and the snake in the garden, and also to Delphi, which I have written about on this blog before, as a place of demonic seances, relating to the pythonic demon which in myth, was overcome by Apollo.

In some myths, the priestess seer is called Pythia, and she could be seen as having a pythonic demon. Her name became the name of the main seer, the Pythia. Also, there is a sculpture of the python at Delos.

Therefore, St. Paul is making the connection concerning demonic seers.

Someone indicated that in the Latin Vulgate, in the passage about King Saul seeking out the Witch of Endor, that the "divining spirit" is also referred to as "pythonic". They were correct.

Note--- 1 Samuel 28

7 dixitque Saul servis suis quaerite mihi mulierem habentem pythonem et vadam ad eam et sciscitabor per illam et dixerunt servi eius ad eum est mulier habens pythonem in Aendor

8 mutavit ergo habitum suum vestitusque est aliis vestimentis abiit ipse et duo viri cum eo veneruntque ad mulierem nocte et ait divina mihi in pythone et suscita mihi quem dixero tibi

The evidence is growing for a real identification with false seers and a demon called "Python".

For years, I have been studying the characteristics and importance of the demon mentioned in Revelation. 

For many reasons, this demon is one worshiped today by a certain group of people. And, as it is the same demon or types of demons, this makes the connections more interesting. I wrote an entire post on this in the autumn, about the Destroyer, Abaddon, or Apollyon. 

http://supertradmum-etheldredasplace.blogspot.ie/2014/10/for-synod-members.html

So the demon is worshiped today by a certain group and is the same demon of false prophecy, false visions.

Revelation 9:11 Douay-Rheims 

11 A king, the angel of the bottomless pit; whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek Apollyon; in Latin Exterminans,

This demon is attacking the Church now in many areas. 

One, I cannot list them all-but false seers are only one column of warriors against Christ and the truth. I have listed many false seers on this blog. The Pythonic demon....

Two, Coatlicue and Qpetzalcoatl, Aztec serpent gods demanded human sacrifice, especially the first demon. I think abortion is connected to these evil spirits--the Pythonic demon again.

Three, Apollyon is worshiped by a secret society. Yes, yet again...

This powerful demon and cohorts have not left us alone...and are mentioned in all the above references dating back to Genesis. 

To be continued....for a reason