I wrote about this several times in the past three years....
Check out this link. http://reginamag.com/unknown-catholic-genocide/
Showing posts with label The Vendee. Show all posts
Showing posts with label The Vendee. Show all posts
Thursday, 4 December 2014
Thursday, 15 May 2014
Today in Rome, An Echo of Earlier Posts This Week
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The Pope talked about Catholic identity. This is key to the survival of the Church in Europe and in America.
The Holy Father stressed the Incarnation, that Christ came into history and created community.
Just in the past week, I wrote about the need for memory-in the face of memoricide.
http://supertradmum-etheldredasplace.blogspot.com/2014/05/liturgical-memory-vs-memoricide.html
http://supertradmum-etheldredasplace.blogspot.com/2014/05/memory-and-memoricide-continued.html
http://supertradmum-etheldredasplace.blogspot.com/2014/05/memoricide-and-memory-continued.html
Read those posts. Now, today, the Pope calls us memorioso, people of living history.
" Jesus does not make sense without this history" because He "is the end of this story, towards which this story goes, towards which it walks... you cannot understand a Christian outside of the people of God. The Christian is not a monad", but "belongs to a people: the Church. A
Christian without a church is something purely idealistic, it is not real".
"But you cannot understand a Christian alone, just like you cannot understand Jesus Christ alone. Jesus Christ did not fall from the sky like a superhero who comes to save us. No. Jesus Christ has a history. And we can say, and it is true, that God has a history because He wanted to walk with us. And you cannot understand Jesus Christ without His history. So a Christian without history, without a Christian nation, a Christian without the Church is incomprehensible. It is a thing of the laboratory, an artificial thing, a thing that cannot give life...walking with a promise. This dimension, it is important that we always remember this dimension of history"
..."A Christian is a living memory of the history of his people, he is a living memory of his people’s journey, he is the living memory of his Church. Memory ... memory of all of the past ... Then, where is this people going? Towards the ultimate promise. It is a people walking towards fullness; a chosen people which has a promise for the future and walks toward this promise, towards the fulfillment of this promise. And for this, a Christian in the Church is a man, a woman with hope: hope in the promise. It is not expectation: no, no! That’s something else: It is hope. Right, on we go!... (to) that which does not disappoint".
The Holy Father stressed the Incarnation, that Christ came into history and created community.
Just in the past week, I wrote about the need for memory-in the face of memoricide.
http://supertradmum-etheldredasplace.blogspot.com/2014/05/liturgical-memory-vs-memoricide.html
http://supertradmum-etheldredasplace.blogspot.com/2014/05/memory-and-memoricide-continued.html
http://supertradmum-etheldredasplace.blogspot.com/2014/05/memoricide-and-memory-continued.html
Read those posts. Now, today, the Pope calls us memorioso, people of living history.
" Jesus does not make sense without this history" because He "is the end of this story, towards which this story goes, towards which it walks... you cannot understand a Christian outside of the people of God. The Christian is not a monad", but "belongs to a people: the Church. A
Christian without a church is something purely idealistic, it is not real".
"But you cannot understand a Christian alone, just like you cannot understand Jesus Christ alone. Jesus Christ did not fall from the sky like a superhero who comes to save us. No. Jesus Christ has a history. And we can say, and it is true, that God has a history because He wanted to walk with us. And you cannot understand Jesus Christ without His history. So a Christian without history, without a Christian nation, a Christian without the Church is incomprehensible. It is a thing of the laboratory, an artificial thing, a thing that cannot give life...walking with a promise. This dimension, it is important that we always remember this dimension of history"
..."A Christian is a living memory of the history of his people, he is a living memory of his people’s journey, he is the living memory of his Church. Memory ... memory of all of the past ... Then, where is this people going? Towards the ultimate promise. It is a people walking towards fullness; a chosen people which has a promise for the future and walks toward this promise, towards the fulfillment of this promise. And for this, a Christian in the Church is a man, a woman with hope: hope in the promise. It is not expectation: no, no! That’s something else: It is hope. Right, on we go!... (to) that which does not disappoint".
Saturday, 10 May 2014
Memoricide and Memory Continued
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Supertradmum
What has been lost astounds me daily. For example, the laity at the TLM do not know their own unwritten rubrics, which were passed down for centuries, albeit with local differences.
For example, I try to explain over and over, that when the priest gets up after sitting on the side, the laity stand as well. And, the laity do not say the altar server parts of the TLM.
Sadly, some who have come over from idiosyncratic groups attempt to push their agendas on to the normal role of the laity.
Another odd thing is the insistence of men only in choirs. For centuries, there were women singing in churches. The choir loft was invented so that women could sing and not be in the altar or "monastic choir" area. Also, women and girls, taught by nuns, were sacristans for a long time as well.
Too many lay people have lost the sense of reverence, even in the TLM and either do not discipline their children or talk as soon as Mass is over.
These are all signs of memoricide.
Once a Catholic identity is gone, it has to be set-up again from scratch, which can be difficult. When certain personalities get involved in pushing certain ideals which did not even exist before the so-called watershed of Vatican II, confusion reigns.
Again, I wrote quite a while ago on the false romanticizing of a TLM past. However, we must keep memory of what went before.
I have an unusually excellent memory, which is a gift from God, and as a person who grew up with the TLM, which did not disappear before I was 19, I have tried to discuss lay habits and customs, so that extremes are not put into place and so that some of the older ways are kept.
Some younger TLMers become hysterical in their efforts to create something which never existed, while ignoring their own role as parents first.
By the way, us TLM kids learned the Latin before we made our First Holy Communion at age eight.
Why are parents not teaching their children the Latin? I offered to hold a Latin class and no one was interested.
Memoricide.................
Memory and Memoricide Continued
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Supertradmum
I am still thinking of finishing my doctorate which has to do with the the Traditional Liturgy and continuity in the Anglican community, leading to the Ordinariate.
I have interviewed some clergyman on the point both in the states and in England.
My idea is one connected to this concept that the Liturgy keeps the memory of Catholicism alive in a community, and that "memoricide" totally disrupts the Catholic community in order to make it disappear.
Henry VIII tried this, as did Elizabeth I. The Muslim conquests attempted this as well. To destroy the liturgical infrastructure of the Church is to destroy the Church.
No Mass, no sacraments, no Catholic marriages, no vocations and so on...
Memoricide works. The Czech Republic, before the Soviet invasion, was a country with a long, alive heritage of Catholicism. The Soviet government succeeded in making it one of the most secular countries in Europe.
Memoricide destroys family histories as well. Those of my readers who have been following my ancestor series know how important oral tradition is in families, especially Catholic families.
Oral tradition is exactly what we have in the Traditional Mass.
Pray, that if it is God's Will, I can finish this study. Money is a problem, but so is the lack of stability in my life.
I have interviewed some clergyman on the point both in the states and in England.
My idea is one connected to this concept that the Liturgy keeps the memory of Catholicism alive in a community, and that "memoricide" totally disrupts the Catholic community in order to make it disappear.
Henry VIII tried this, as did Elizabeth I. The Muslim conquests attempted this as well. To destroy the liturgical infrastructure of the Church is to destroy the Church.
No Mass, no sacraments, no Catholic marriages, no vocations and so on...
Memoricide works. The Czech Republic, before the Soviet invasion, was a country with a long, alive heritage of Catholicism. The Soviet government succeeded in making it one of the most secular countries in Europe.
Memoricide destroys family histories as well. Those of my readers who have been following my ancestor series know how important oral tradition is in families, especially Catholic families.
Oral tradition is exactly what we have in the Traditional Mass.
Pray, that if it is God's Will, I can finish this study. Money is a problem, but so is the lack of stability in my life.
Liturgical Memory vs. Memoricide
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Supertradmum
19 Then he took a loaf of bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.”
Luke 18:8
New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)
8 I tell you, he will quickly grant justice to them. And yet, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on earth?”
http://lesalonbeige.blogs.com/my_weblog/2011/10/le-plan-dextermination-de-la-vendée-militaire-un-génocide.html
The term "memoricide" is used in this article above, a post which is a plea for the French to stop covering up the genocide of the Vendeans by ignoring this history. Memoricide can only be combated by the truth.
Many religions, including the Jewish and the Catholic use memory daily in liturgies. For example, we read the Doctors of the Church and the lives of the saints in the Office. We read the Psalms of David, which remind us to remember the Goodness of the Lord.
Memoricide has been part of the ideology of all governments, all tyrannies which hate the Catholic Church.
The Nazi regime wanted to erase the memory of the Jewish people from the nations over-run by Hitler.
Turkey denies the Armenian genocide and attempts to wash away all memory of that horrible time.
The Catholics is China and Japan not only were killed, martyred for the Faith, but their memories forgotten, except by the few.
This can and may happen to us. Our Catholic identity may become a mere memory.
The history of the Vendee reminds us the memoricide is alive and well in the world.
As long as there is the Mass and the Eucharist, we shall be a people of memory.
Let this love of God never disappear....
The Vendee-"A Catholic People"
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The main points I want to share with readers from Davies' book are these three.
First, those peasants, nobility and clergy of the Vendee formed a Catholic community. These people, as noted in the book, were not only joined by a strong faith, but by a sharing of that faith which crossed the levels of a class structure. The clergy came, as Davies notes, from the very families who lived there, and the nobility had good relationships with the people
Catholicism shared created community, and those in the Vendee experienced a Catholic community which fed Catholic identity.
Second, an important point which has been misconstrued by many Catholic men and women is that it is good and necessary sometimes to defend one's self and one's family. Today, an odd and highly un-Catholic pacifism has taken over the hearts of many men, who no longer believe they need to defend priests, wives, children, the old and even the Eucharist. Such cowardice was unknown among those who lived in the Vendee.
Third, the enemies of the Church desired genocide, the complete wiping out of the faithful in the Vendee. Davies writes that this was the "Last Crusade". Indeed, parents and teachers, this is the time to share the history of the Vendeans with your children and students.
We shall see these times again, perpetrated by those who hate God, His Church, His Papacy and His clergy.
First, those peasants, nobility and clergy of the Vendee formed a Catholic community. These people, as noted in the book, were not only joined by a strong faith, but by a sharing of that faith which crossed the levels of a class structure. The clergy came, as Davies notes, from the very families who lived there, and the nobility had good relationships with the people
Catholicism shared created community, and those in the Vendee experienced a Catholic community which fed Catholic identity.
Second, an important point which has been misconstrued by many Catholic men and women is that it is good and necessary sometimes to defend one's self and one's family. Today, an odd and highly un-Catholic pacifism has taken over the hearts of many men, who no longer believe they need to defend priests, wives, children, the old and even the Eucharist. Such cowardice was unknown among those who lived in the Vendee.
Third, the enemies of the Church desired genocide, the complete wiping out of the faithful in the Vendee. Davies writes that this was the "Last Crusade". Indeed, parents and teachers, this is the time to share the history of the Vendeans with your children and students.
We shall see these times again, perpetrated by those who hate God, His Church, His Papacy and His clergy.
The Heroes of the Vendee-Ancestors in The Faith
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As I have been studying this period of time with my student, we decided to read together Michael Davies' book.
One reason I chose this book and this rather forgotten time in the horrors of the French Revolution, is the obvious reason that we are living in similar times, when the hatred of the Catholic Church has taken over the hearts, minds and souls of so many governments.
We are faced with the growing arm of evil in almost all the so-called free countries of the world. That Catholics have been or are becoming marginalized are two alarming facts of government policies.
Of course, evil has always been on the earth since Adam's sin, but sometimes it is more obvious. Tolkein notes this in The Fellowship of the Ring.
"His arm has grown long indeed, " said Gimli, "if he can draw snow down from the North to trouble us here three hundred leagues away." "His arm has grown long," said Gandalf.
The events in the Vendee from 1793 reflect a deep identity with Catholicism, which carried over into a love for the Church and the Monarchy. The romanticzing of the French Revolution, even in so-called Catholic textbooks created an erroneous ideal which claims that freedom was on the side of the Masonic led era of terror, which from its beginnings, planned the destruction of the Church in France.
Davies reminds his readers of St. John Paul II's visit to the Vendee in 1996. Here is his speech to the youth there.
MARTYRS IN THE VENDEE COURAGEOUSLY REMAINED FAITHFUL TO CHRIST'S CHURCH |
Pope John Paul II |
In France to Young People September 19, 1996Dear Friends from Saint-Laurent-sur-Sevre and the Diocese of Lucon, Dear Young People, Thank you for coming to welcome me on my way in pilgrimage to the tomb of St Louis-Marie Grignion de Montfort. I am happy to greet you who were born in this land of the Vendee, you who cherish the precious memory of the pages of your history, both tragic and beautiful. You are the heirs of men and women who were courageous enough to remain faithful to the Church of Jesus Christ at a time when its freedom and independence were threatened. They were not detached from the movements of the time and they sincerely desired the necessary renewal of society, but they could not accept the imposition of a break with the universal Church and, in particular, with the Successor of Peter. And so the parish priest of Maille Joseph Herbert, inspired by the words of Christ, said nobly: "As a citizen of the State I have always given to Caesar what belonged to Caesar; but I will not refuse God what belongs to God". People of the Vendee had great love of the Eucharist In the terrible struggles, many deeds on both sides were stained by sin. But it was in holy union with Christ that numerous martyrs offered their life here, uniting with the Son of God in the sacrifice of the Cross. To the very end they followed their true Master, the One who came to reveal the truth which sets us free and the depth of God's love for all men. In the numerous acts of witness which have come down to us, it is moving to see that the people of the Vendee remained attached to their parishes and their priests despite the cruelty of the persecution. They had a real hunger for the Eucharist, at the risk of their lives, they desired to take part in Mass and to receive the Bread of Life. They wanted to receive the sacrament of forgiveness aware that we are always in need of divine mercy. Some of them, religious or lay, showed a touching Christian spirit when they tended the wounded regardless of which side they were on, or, when inspired by their leaders such as d'Elbee who convinced them to take seriously the words of forgiveness in the Our Father, they decided to spare their enemies. Dear friends, in recalling just a few events of your history, I would like to invite you to remember the best ones. Continue to follow Christ, like him, love all humanity, starting with the most underprivileged. Remain faithful to the Church, to the Eucharist and to the sacrament of forgiveness. Let yourselves be imbued with the love which comes from God! Far from cultivating a fruitless nostalgia, you will then be worthy of your ancestors and continue to live generously as living stones of the Church to which they remained attached to the point of shedding their blood for her. And now I address the young people gathered here, students of the Catholic and State schools. My friends, what I have just said concerns you just as much as your elders. I know that you sometimes have real difficulty in affirming your faith and your membership in the Church. May the martyrs guide you on your way So, I say to you: be brave! Do not let yourselves be overcome by the indifference so widespread around you! Do not let yourselves be impressed by those who reject the demands of our Christian faith or who scorn it. It is now up to you to make your way! Your formation is a real training. Remember St Paul: he spoke of the athletes who trained for the race, at the cost of severe discipline, for a perishable prize, but the Christian knows where his efforts are leading him: to make his life succeed as a disciple of Jesus (cf. I Cor 9:24- 27). If you enroll in the school of Christ, you will develop whatever is best in you; you will learn how to give as wel1 as to receive. You are not alone; you are part of a large community. In the Church the Pope, the Bishops united to him, the priests, the religious and the lay teachers in conjunction with your families are there to hasten to you, guide you and point you in the right direction. They have no other ambition than to pass on to you the Good News of Christ. Do not hesitate to call on them to help you grow in the faith! Like the disciples beside the river Jordan, you ask the Lord: "Master, where do you live?" He replies: "Come and see" (Jn 1:38-39). You know that these words are the theme for World Youth Day, next year in Paris. It will be an opportunity for many of you to share your Christian experience with young people from other countries in the world. Be ready to give them a friendly welcome. Dear friends, trust in Christ, hunger with him in prayer, be active members in the community of his disciples. Take your place in the Church without delay. With your brothers and sisters of all generations, work so that "steadfast, love and faithfulness will meet; righteousness and peace will kiss each other," as one of the psalms says (Ps 85 [84].11). I pray that the martyrs of times past will guide you on your way, so that they will keep you free from all influence and power, and communicate to you their joy in believing and their courage in serving, after the example of Christ. For you, my young friends, and for you all dear faithful of the Vendee, I fervently invoke the intercession of St Louis-Marie, missionary, and that of all the blessed martyrs of your land. May Our Lady protect you! With all my heart I grant you my Apostolic Blessing. I would like to thank you for reducing the rain. The earth needs rain but sometimes one would really like the rain to be somewhat lighter. Indeed this has happened here, thanks to you! EWNT Archives |
to be continued... |
Friday, 9 May 2014
New Book To Read
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I am very excited about a new book I am borrowing-For Altar and Throne: The Rising of the Vendee by Michael Davies, one of my heroes.
God willing that I can continue blogging, I shall share the details of the book with you all.
God willing that I can continue blogging, I shall share the details of the book with you all.
Saturday, 19 April 2014
For my friends in America and in France-a cruel reminder
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French General Francois Joseph Westermann penned a letter to the Committee of Public Safety stating: "There is no more Vendée... According to the orders that you gave me, I crushed the children under the feet of the horses, massacred the women who, at least for these, will not give birth to any more brigands. I do not have a prisoner to reproach me. I have exterminated all."
I have been teaching the massacre, the genocide of the Vendee Catholics to my pupil. I was in the Vendee two years ago and the area is numinous. I have wanted to write more about this horrible time, but have not had time.
More here: http://supertradmum-etheldredasplace.blogspot.com/2014/04/note-this-catholics-there-was-genocide.html
This time of barbarism will happen again. I am waiting to read Michael Davies book on this subject.
The French Government still denies this was genocide. It was. Up to 425,000 Catholics, including women and children were killed.

I have put a few links below to get you started. This time of history, 1793-1796 must be taught.
We do not have much time.
This history has been repressed because of the American glorification of the French Revolution, which was started by Masons, the great enemy of the Church.
http://www.storialibera.it/epoca_contemporanea/rivoluzione_francese/vandea/mostra_online_utopia_against_people_the_vendee_en.php
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/3964724/Vende-French-call-for-revolution-massacre-to-be-termed-genocide.html
http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=5674
Look up the meaning of "The Grace to the Prisoners" when a Vendee leader made his men listen to the words of the Pater Noster.
The loyal Catholic farmers used the windmills as signals. Here are some:
The mills, stood on the the high grounds, are excellent signals for the Vendean fighters and are burnt by republican army. The positions of the wind-vanes give the necessary indications:
1. nothing to signal;
2. caution musters of troops;
3. enemies in the neighbourhood;
4. no more danger.
photos from the first link above
Thursday, 17 April 2014
Note this, Catholics, there was genocide in the Vendee
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Supertradmum
Check out this video through here or on the link below-not the same one as posted. I had trouble posting the one I wanted....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swALctbUbpo
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-hidden-rebellion-phase-ii
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swALctbUbpo
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-hidden-rebellion-phase-ii
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