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Some of us had a gut reaction to this stuff years ago. I do not understand why now a heretic is being touted as a true seer?

It can be a serious sin, and a temptation to leave the Church to follow this person.

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9 things you need to know about "Maria Divine Mercy"

 Sunday, March 03, 2013 4:43 PM
The visionary"Maria Divine Mercy" claims that Pope Benedict was the last pope and the next one will be the False Prophet. What should we think of this? Here are 9 things you should know.
Many people have been talking about a woman who calls herself "Maria Divine Mercy." She has made dramatic claims in the form of alleged private revelations.
She claims to have predicted Pope Benedict's resignation in advance.
She also claims that he will be the last pope on earth, that the next pope to be elected will be the false prophet, and that the Second Coming is about to occur.
What should we make of these claims?
Here are 9 things you need to know.

1. Who is "Maria Divine Mercy"?

We don't know.
According to her web site, she is "a Roman Catholic married mother of a young family living in Europe [and] says she has been receiving from the Holy Trinity as well as by the Virgin Mary."
She writes anonymous, stating, "The woman wishes to be known by the name Maria Divine Mercy and says that it is the wish of Jesus that she remains anonymous to protect her family and to avoid any distraction from the messages."
"The messages have been received by her since November 2010 and are still ongoing. Over 650 have been received."
In a YouTube interview, she claims to have been a business woman and speaks with what appears to be an Irish accent.

2. What does she say about her own role in God's plan? 

She claims a rather startling role:
Maria says the messages are also being given to help prepare the world for the Second Coming of Christ which will follow The Warning. . . .
Maria was told by Jesus that she is the 7th Messenger, the 7th Angel sent to reveal to the world the contents of the Seals in the Book of Revelation which can only be opened by the Lamb of God, Jesus Christ. He will open the Seals and reveal, in advance, the contents. Maria has to publish them as each Seal is opened. He has told her she is the end time prophet.

3. How Popular is Maria Divine Mercy?

Her FaceBook page--Jesus to Mankind--presently has more than 17,000 "Likes," which is quite a substantial number.
She also promotes her message through a web she sells copies of her revelations in the form of books titled The Book of Truth (vol.s I & II).
She is apparently popular enough that there are knockoff web sites also repeating her messages. Her own web site contains a warning against the knockoffs.

4. What has Maria Divine Mercy said about Pope Benedict?

Among the more notable things she has claimed are the following:
  • Pope Benedict XVI is the "last Pope on earth, Benedict XVI, chosen by Me [Jesus] to lead My Church during the last days" (source).
  • Pope Benedict would be forced from office: "Pope Benedict XVI, will be ousted from the Holy See in Rome" (source).
  • This will be due to a plan that was launched "within the corridors of the Vatican" (source).
  • Now that he has resigned, "They will now try to kill him . . . They will say that he was guilty of a crime of which he is totally innocent" (source).

5. What has she said about the next pope?

Maria Divine Mercy has a very unusual set of beliefs regarding the next pope.
Apparently drawing on the St. Malachy prophecy of the popes, she identifies the next true pope as "Peter the Roman," but she believes that he will be the actual, historical St. Peter and that he will not reign on earth but from heaven, at least until the Second Coming, when he will begin to rule on earth. She writes:
My beloved Pope Benedict XVI is the last true Pope on this earth.
Peter the Roman, is My Peter, the original apostle who will rule My Church from the Heavens under the command of My Eternal Father. Then, when I come to reign, at the Second Coming, he will rule over all of God’s children when all religions will become one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
Prior to the Second Coming, she claims that the Catholic Church on earth will be governed by a false pope:
  • In Pope Benedict's place, a new antipope will be elected: "The false prophet will now take over the Seat in Rome" (source). "[T]hey will bring God’s children under the rule of the little horn, who will sit in pompous splendour in the Seat of Peter" (source).
  • This antipope will announce a plan to merge world religions: "Seated in the Chair of Peter, this imposter will shout aloud and proudly proclaim his solution to unite all churches as one.  Hailed as a modern innovator, he will be applauded by the secular world because he will condone sin. He will bring in new laws, which will, not only contradict the Teachings of the Catholic Church, but which will go against all Christian laws" (source).

6. What does she claim about the future?

Maria Divine Mercy makes a number of claims. Among them are these:
  • We are currently in the Great Tribulation: "My dearly beloved daughter the three and a half years remaining in the Tribulation period commences in December 2012" (source). This would put the end of the Great Tribulation in May 2016.
  • The antichrist will soon appear: "The false prophet, while busy with his lofty ambitions to impress the world’s Catholics, will be pushed to one side, for a while, because the antichrist will now enter the world stage, as foretold. When you hear the media reports of the new, promising, skilled, peace negotiator, you will know who he is. He will be a very close ally of the false prophet and is under no illusion as to who he is – the son of Satan" (source).
  • The antichrist and false prophet will set up a New World Religion: "He will be head of the New World Religion and he, and the False Prophet, who will head up the shell of the Catholic Church on earth will work closely to deceive all of God’s children" (source).
  • There will be a supernatural event ("the Warning") in which God makes his presence known: "You must await now My Divine Act of Mercy, for it will weed out the good from the wicked. This great Illumination of Conscience will take place after My Holy Vicar [Benedict XVI] has left Rome" (source). "billions of people will convert during The Warning" (source).
  • Afterward, the Second Coming will take place and there will be 1,000 years of peace: "This Era of Peace [spoken of at Fatima] will take place after the Second Coming of My Son and will last 1,000 years" (source). This is also the Millennium spoken of in Revelation, and its length is to be taken literally: "Know that the 1,000 years referred to in the Book of Revelation means just that. If it was meant to be something different then it would have been given a different time" (source).
  • The Second Coming and the Millennium that follows it is distinct from the end of the world: "Many people believe that My Second Coming indicates that the END OF THE WORLD has come. THAT IS NOT THE CASE for, instead, it will mean the END TIMES when Satan and his followers who create untold misery in the world will be BANISHED FROM EARTH FOR 1,000 YEARS" (source, emphasis in original).

7. What should we make of all this?

There are abundant reasons not to trust Maria Divine Mercy's claims.
One of them is that she operates anonymously. This does not fit the pattern of authentic visionaries, who have been willing to undergo criticism and even persecution for the sake of their visions.
"Maria Divine Mercy," by contrast, apparently lives a normal life that she keeps partitioned off from her secret life, in which she uses the Internet to spread her messages (and sell her books).
Yet her secret life is so important that God himself has told her that she is "the 7th Messenger, the 7th Angel sent to reveal to the world the contents of the Seals in the Book of Revelation" and that "she is the end time prophet."
After all the prophets and visionaries of history who operated with people knowing their identities, with them and their families facing the consequences of delivering God's message, God wants "the end time prophet" to operate safely and anonymously from the comfort of her living room, using an Internet connection to maintain her privacy?
(Also, what is this "7th Messenger," "7th Angel" business? Who were the previous six? And humans aren't the same kind of creatures as angels.)
There are also abundant reasons not to trust her prophecies.

8. Are her prophecies reliable?

No. We're fortunate that she's associated dates with them (e.g., the statement that the last 3 1/2 years of the Tribulation began in December 2012). That provides a short shelf-life for her prophecies. When they are proved false she will have the option of walking away from them (having conveniently kept her identity secret) or re-jiggering and re-interpreting them.
Even now, though, there are reasons not to trust them.
First, her main claim to fame is having allegedly predicted Pope Benedict's resignation from the papacy.
But she didn't actually do that.
She said that he would be forced out of office by a plot against him hatched in the Vatican. That might have seemed reasonable back when her "prophecies" were first being given, what with the VatiLeaks scandal of 2012 or the German and Irish paedophilia scandals before that, but it's not what happened.
Unless you want to accuse Pope Benedict of being a liar.
He wasn't "ousted" due to a plot. He freely resigned due to health reasons. Here's what Pope Benedict actually said:
I have come to the certainty that my strengths, due to an advanced age, are no longer suited to an adequate exercise of the Petrine ministry. I am well aware that this ministry, due to its essential spiritual nature, must be carried out not only with words and deeds, but no less with prayer and suffering.
However, in today’s world, subject to so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance for the life of faith, in order to govern the barque of Saint Peter and proclaim the Gospel, both strength of mind and body are necessary, strength which in the last few months, has deteriorated in me to the extent that I have had to recognize my incapacity to adequately fulfill the ministry entrusted to me.
For this reason, and well aware of the seriousness of this act, with full freedom I declare that I renounce the ministry of Bishop of Rome, Successor of Saint Peter. 
To buy Maria Divine Mercy's claim, you must set aside Pope Benedict's own claim. Although he is described in the messages by Jesus as "My innocent, beloved last Pope on earth, Benedict XVI" (source), he would have been lying in the very act of renouncing the papacy if he did not do so "with full freedom" and for age-related reasons but rather under coercision and because of a plot.
Her further predictions--regarding St. Peter reigning at first in heaven and then on earth during the Millennium, the Warning, the next pope being the false prophet, a coming world religion, before the Second Coming and an earthly Millennium before the end of the world--are a mishmash of other visionaries' material combined with Premillennial Protestant ideas (a form of what has historically been called "milleniarianism").
The latter ideas, in particular, have been rejected by the Catholic Church. The Catechism states:
The Antichrist's deception already begins to take shape in the world every time the claim is made to realize within history that messianic hope which can only be realized beyond history through the eschatological judgement. The Church has rejected even modified forms of this falsification of the kingdom to come under the name of millenarianism [CCC 676].

9. Should Catholics give credence to Maria Divine Mercy?
No. She is an anonymous, unapproved seer whose prophecies contain material that is both demonstrably false and contrary to Catholic teaching regarding the future.
Furthermore, to adhere to her prophecies can result in the grave sin and canonical crime of schism.
If, as soon as a new pope is elected, one were to regard him--as Maria Divine Mercy would have us regard him--as a false pope and the False Prophet, one would be in a state of schism.
According to the Code of Canon Law:
[S]chism is the refusal of submission to the Supreme Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him [CIC 751].
This would have grave consequences for an individual, both spiritually and canonically, including possible automatic (latae sententiae) excommunication, since:
[A] schismatic incurs a latae sententiae excommunication [CIC 1364 §1].
Which includes, among other things the inability to receive the sacraments until one repents of the schism and is restored to communion with the Church.
Under no circumstances should a Catholic become involved with or give any credence to the "messages" of Maria Divine Mercy.
May she herself find the grace to repudiate them, take them down, and alert her followers of their falseness

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By David Moorcroft

It is elementary that God does not contradict himself. No true private revelation will THE HERESIES OF THE ‘WARNINGSECONDCOMING’ contradict God’s public revelation to his Church in Scripture or in Sacred Tradition. The alleged revelations to the anonymous ‘seer’ called ‘Maria Divine Mercy’ are riddled with doctrinal falsehoods which God or the Blessed Mother would not have spoken. Dates of ‘messages’ are given, British style, day of month first. ‘Messages’ are from ‘Jesus’ unless otherwise stated.

8/11/2010: [‘Virgin Mary’] ‘The Holy Family will re-unite.’
          Since Our Lady’s Assumption the Holy Family is united eternally in heaven.

13/11/2010: ‘I am suffering to such an extent that the wounds inflicted upon Me at My terrible crucifixion…are opening again and festering…’
          The body of Our Lord can never suffer corruption, such as festering. This is also blasphemy.

21/11/2010: ‘All paths lead to God, the creator of mankind.’  Jesus actually said ‘I am the way, the truth and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.’ 
‘All paths’, by definition, include animism, spiritualism, witchcraft, Marxism and devil worship. MDM tells us they all lead to God!

18/12/2011: ‘My role was to show you, through my teachings and death on the cross, the Pathway to Heaven.’
Note that Christ merely plays a role! – and that role is merely to show us the way to    heaven. Nothing here about his redemptive sacrifice on the cross.

1/1/2011: ‘My Beloved Mother, the Angel of Light…’
The Blessed Mother is not an angel. The phrase ‘angel of light’ occurs once in Scripture, in 2 Cor 11:14, where it refers to the deception of Satan!

16/1/2011: ‘It is vital that My children understand the way in which they can prepare their souls in order to redeem themselves in the eyes of My Father.’
We are powerless to redeem ourselves, which only God can do for us. He did this once and for all in the death and resurrection of His son. This error recurs many times in the ‘messages’.

24/1/2011: ‘It is harder to achieve My special graces than it is to avoid sin in any form.’
It is impossible for us to ‘achieve’ graces. They are by definition a FREE GIFT   from God.

7/2/2011: ‘It is because of this scripture [i.e., MDM’s messages] that they will survive The Warning.’
Another recurring theme: MDM’s messages are Holy Scripture. 

Message 18/3/2011: ‘Respect this most Holy Scripture.’

Here they are said to be necessary to our salvation during the Warning. The Sacred Canon was closed during the Apostolic Age. There will be no more ‘Holy Scripture’.

14//4/2011: ‘Many Christians ignore one of the most fundamental promises I made during My crucifixtion [sic] where I would be present in bread and wine and leave a permanent mark to help nourish souls.’
(1) Christ made one promise on the cross – to the repentant robber.
(2) He is not present IN bread and wine: these elements are changed entire into His Body and Blood. Basic catechism!
(3) Reception of the Eucharist does not confer a permanent sacramental mark. This is why we receive more than once.

21/5/2011: ‘My love, after the act of Redemption takes place, will flood your soul.’
The act of redemption took place 2,000 years ago. There will be no other.

25/6/2011: [God the Father!] ‘This New Paradise on Earth is now being planned for all My children. It will last 1,000 years on earth.’
This is the heresy known as Millenarianism. The Church has condemned it as ‘the Antichrist’s deception.’ (See Catechism of the Catholic Church, No.676.) Does MDM take ‘The Watchtower’?

31/8/2011: ‘All religions, all creeds…are all so precious to My Eternal Father.’
It follows, then, that headhunting, thuggee, necromancy, divination, Freemasonry, atheistic humanism, spiritualism and satanism are all so precious to the Father!

13/9/2011: ‘Never allow yourselves to accept any truth other than that contained in the Holy Bible.’
The heresy of  ‘sola scriptura’! MDM, then, is a Protestant and rejects Sacred Tradition.

17/9/2011: ‘My daughter, while I need suffering to save poor unfortunate souls…’
Christ invites us to co-operate with him in our sufferings to help save souls. He is God. He does not NEED anything.

6/11/2011: ‘Remember the demon lives not just in Hell but has firmly established his reign on earth.’           
Satan’s rule was overthrown by Christ’s redemptive act. God alone reigns. Satan has power only over those who give it to him.

7/11/2011: ‘Without your sacrifice I could not fulfil my promise to save mankind so that every soul is accorded the opportunity to benefit from their rightful inheritance.’
If Christ ‘could not’ save mankind without MDM, then (1) Christ is not God Omnipotent, and (2) MDM is a necessary co-redeemer!  

24/12/2011: [God the Father] ‘When I realised that the only way to redeem mankind was to send a Saviour…’
According to MDM, the Father has to take time to ‘realise’ how to fulfil his plan of salvation!

4/1/2012: ‘Preparations are complete but I need more prayer for those who will die a wretched death in a state of mortal sin during The Warning.’
How many Catholics don’t know that souls that die in mortal sin enter immediately into hell? They are beyond our prayers.

9/3/2012: (Virgin Mary) “Now you know how He suffered in the Garden of Gethsemane and how He still suffers today as every attempt by Him to intervene to save sinners is thwarted by the evil one.” 
Jesus’ power to save sinners is said to be weaker than Satan’s opposition!

25.4.2012:  “All mankind will have free will until it all unites with the Divine Will of the Father.” 
A creature without free will is incapable of love. According to MDM, this will be taken away from us when ‘it all unites’!

28/4/2012: (God the Father) “As the Father of humanity I am ready to send My Son back to reclaim his rightful throne.”
The author of this message doesn't know the Creed: Christ has ‘ascended into heaven, and is seated at the right hand of the Father.’

7/5/2012:  “[Jesus to the Church] You scaled such lofty heights that I could not reach up to you and offer you My hand to salvage you from the rot within you core.”
Does this blasphemous drivel call for a comment?
“ When Vatican II declared new rules they were introduced by those evil Masonic forces from within your corridors.”
Many messages refer to an ‘evil Masonic sect’ within the Vatican. For several reasons this sinks MDM’s credibility:
          (1) she has said – see above – that ‘All paths lead to God’, and ‘All religions, creeds…are so precious to My Eternal Father.’ All religions, creeds and paths, by definition, include Freemasonry, which should, therefore, lead to God;
          (2) the false belief that all paths lead to God is a core doctrine of Freemasonry. MDM’s messages teach Masonic doctrine!

12/5/2012:  “It will take strong faith and acceptance of the Truth contained within these messages from Heaven to stay on the true path to eternal life.”
MDM’s messages are thus said to be necessary for our salvation. Only a false prophet would claim this.

9/7/2012:  “For Catholics among you, you must receive the Sacrament of Confession every two weeks if you wish to remain in a state of Grace.”
An earlier message (24/1/2011) says ‘weekly attendance’ is necessary for this. Catholics must avoid serious sin (e.g., heresy, blasphemy, schism, spreading false prophecy) to remain in state of grace.

18/12/2012:  “Every child murdered in the womb becomes an angel in My Father’s Kingdom.”
Every child murdered in the womb dies in the mercy of God and remains a human person.

10/12/2012:  “My Return will be the moment of My Glorification.”
The moment of Christ’s Glorification was his Resurrection.”

What is the real purpose of MDM’s messages?

15/11/2010:  “I ask you to pray for My Beloved Pope [Benedict XVI], the last true Pope.”
7/6/2011:  “It is important that My followers keep alert to any new Pope that may come forward for he will not be from God.”
18/1/2012:  “They plan to replace the Holy Vicar Pope Benedict XVI with a dictator of lies. He will create a new church in league with the antichrist.”
10/4/2012:  “The new false Pope is already scheming, even before he ascends to the throne of  the Seat of Peter, to denounce the teaching of My Son.”
12/4/2012:  “The pope [who comes after Pope Benedict] may be elected by members within the Catholic Church but he will be the false prophet.” (I.e., of the Antichrist.)
Comment should be unnecessary. Vatican I taught infallibly that St Peter will have perpetual successors in the primacy, and pronounced an anathema against anyone who should deny this. MDM’s prophecy here is a lie from the Pit. Pope Benedict has been warning the Church about the huge number of false ‘visionaries’ who are exploiting modern means of communication to lead Catholics out of the Church and into schismatic cults.

The stigmatist Marie Julie Jahenny alleged that Jesus told her in 1882:
          “During the time of approach of the punishments announced at La Salette, an unlimited number of FALSE REVELATIONS will arise from hell like a swarm of flies; a last attempt of Satan to choke and destroy the belief in TRUE REVELATIONS by false ones.”